I'm Armed!

Gregory Nowak greg at romuald.net.eu.org
Sat Apr 3 18:41:39 MST 2004


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I'd say go for it, but try to keep the freesoft project out of it. I
don't want to see PDI taking steps to blast us out of existence, at
least until we've got some publicly available gpld code to show for
our efforts.

Greg


On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 02:34:46AM +0100, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> All that's left is to press the detonate clip...
> 
> I am ready to begin my long-haul assault upon the BrailleNote list.  I 
> don't wish to bring Linux or the project directly into play and/or risk 
> here, because we've done that time and again.  I just want, once and for 
> all, to put all the points we've discussed on this list, for how we would 
> like PDI to progress in terms of the fully open vs half open state of 
> things (as opposed to the fully closed system it is now).  I've spoken to 
> people, directly, through this list or otherwise, on the phone and by 
> email; I very much want to put the views we have felt, from the least 
> possible extreme possible, to the list where it seems most attention will 
> be gained.  Topics covered are, in no particular order:
> 
> Philosophy is recognised.  Menus and convenience are definitely a plus.  
> GUI has no real baring, in the sense that the openness of software is of 
> greater importance than the need for a graphical representation.  We like 
> menu structure, consistency and order, and ease of use.
> 
> The license violation - it never got sorted, I want to put this up for 
> public debate.
> The issue of choice between opening the API and opening the entire system, 
> with the latter being preferable.  In both cases, Windows CE is still the 
> operating system.  Advocating Linux is but one possible outcome of open 
> source, to whatever extent.  I think we agreed though that windows CE 
> isn't significant if some or all of KeySoft can be developed by end-users -
>  after all, we use Windows PCs and don't object to using Visual Studio, 
> even if the code thus generated may run on Windows and may even be closed 
> source.  So, a Windows-like development model wouldn't be so bad for 
> KeySoft development, with publically available user SDKs and such like.  
> Meantime, the power of Linux is its shell, and if PDI should think about 
> Linux and the open source movement, in a bid perhaps to gain some footing 
> against FreedomScientific (which, we admit, is as good a time as ever, 
> what with PulseData's struggling to keep its cool) for the sake of 
> complete user independence, then the project - er, some friends of mine - 
> are the best people to get in touch with to facilitate any possible 
> negotiation.  In such negotiation, we aren't signing no stinkin' non-
> disclosure agreements.  If PulseData want to close source parts of their 
> software and charge, so be it - we don't object, as long as we don't have 
> to distribute it and have licensing ties to it.  We are also likely to 
> push open source to the advocacy limit, which is basically to GPL the 
> whole lot.
> 
> Last, of course, is this project: the aims, the purpose, the 
> understandings and requirements, the specs.  Patience can no longer be a 
> priority.  I have other projects to attend to, one of which may involve a 
> bit of exhibitioning (if I can make it).
> 
> Before I blaze onto the list with a punchline likee "Open up the darn 
> system!", I need your general agreement and approval, murmers of 
> constination, or whatever.  Any suggestions or corrections are welcome.  I 
> assure you that this effort will be to my own possible disadvantage - the 
> mention of names and identities may, at your option, be kept vague and 
> confidential in the event that they don't like what I say.
> 
> I'm waiting!  I just want to get on with this.
> 
> This message is signed cryptographically for non-repudiation purposes.  
> This is really me.
> 
> Cheers,
> Sabahattin
> -- 
> Thought for the day:
>     Bagpipes (n): an octopus wearing a kilt.
> 
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